neoneo
05-05 10:57 AM
Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
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mirage
03-16 11:09 AM
They recaptured unused Visas once, somewhere in 1997 I'm not sure exactly when it happened, but that took care of the backlog then.
The main thing which we are struggling with are the 200K H1B between 1999 & 2001 and one more reason is 245i cases. In the year 2001 Clinton Administration gave Amnesty to Illegals, they were given opportunity to file their 485s with PD of April'2001...Now this is controversial, as I have even asked few lawyers about which categoy they fell in ? Some says 'EB-3' other says 'Other Workers' Category.
If it is EB-3 you know the answer why the dates haven't passed the big hump of 2001 in last 4 years...
Good discussion.
But even if it was 65000, from India, I'm sure most of them took a big slice, lets say 30%= 20,000 H1 visas. And did the 7% quota formula might have existed at that time too. If so, even then there must be quite a big line. Why were things current at any point, they must not be going by these numbers, and even assuming they did the processing without visa losses.
The main thing which we are struggling with are the 200K H1B between 1999 & 2001 and one more reason is 245i cases. In the year 2001 Clinton Administration gave Amnesty to Illegals, they were given opportunity to file their 485s with PD of April'2001...Now this is controversial, as I have even asked few lawyers about which categoy they fell in ? Some says 'EB-3' other says 'Other Workers' Category.
If it is EB-3 you know the answer why the dates haven't passed the big hump of 2001 in last 4 years...
Good discussion.
But even if it was 65000, from India, I'm sure most of them took a big slice, lets say 30%= 20,000 H1 visas. And did the 7% quota formula might have existed at that time too. If so, even then there must be quite a big line. Why were things current at any point, they must not be going by these numbers, and even assuming they did the processing without visa losses.
desi3933
06-26 04:02 PM
" Why don't you sign unless it say until and after 1 year approval. You can leave employment after 6 months of filing I-485 and see what happens at that time, you have nothing to loose " - DSJ
I dont have a problem signing 1 yr agreement because my 140 will take at least another 8 months ( Feb 08) and by the time next years budget opens up for good new Jobs its already Mar 08.
But my concern is if my employer wants me to hang on with them till 485 is approved and then 1 more year
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
I dont have a problem signing 1 yr agreement because my 140 will take at least another 8 months ( Feb 08) and by the time next years budget opens up for good new Jobs its already Mar 08.
But my concern is if my employer wants me to hang on with them till 485 is approved and then 1 more year
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
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Can454545
05-10 08:13 PM
Its amazing how this community reacts to these set backs. For last few months I have been consistently seeing people with EB-3 complaining and pleading to the community to come together and join hands to eliminate the country cap. But most of the words fell of dumb ears. Most of the EB-2 members did read the pleads and requests, but did not bother to take and concrete actions or even comment on it.
Now that the EB-2 is regrogressed to 2000, suddenly all the EB-2 members jump in. What happened, friends?
This is plain selfishness - on the part for few lil stratured people. They should be ashamed of themselves or even to comment on these forums and come up with ideas.
The point is not to divide the community, but to emphasize on unity! Though we belong to different EB categories, we need to work together and realize the pain of the community as a whole instead of taking it individually.
Well my hopes are pretty low from this community, infact hopeless. But I did take the pain to create the dummy username to point this bigotry of some of our useless members, who are among us.
Please don't care for our betterment - we have and would manage without the help of you BS people.
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Now that the EB-2 is regrogressed to 2000, suddenly all the EB-2 members jump in. What happened, friends?
This is plain selfishness - on the part for few lil stratured people. They should be ashamed of themselves or even to comment on these forums and come up with ideas.
The point is not to divide the community, but to emphasize on unity! Though we belong to different EB categories, we need to work together and realize the pain of the community as a whole instead of taking it individually.
Well my hopes are pretty low from this community, infact hopeless. But I did take the pain to create the dummy username to point this bigotry of some of our useless members, who are among us.
Please don't care for our betterment - we have and would manage without the help of you BS people.
HHHHHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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07-19 09:45 PM
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kshitijnt
05-01 11:56 PM
even if yu have got a red dot for some stupid reason I was strongly tempted to give yu ared dot for this reply. If not let the administrators give yu one................
Why arent you tempted to give me green though :)
Why arent you tempted to give me green though :)
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iviviv
10-24 07:31 PM
What is IV's game plan after the elections? Are we being proactive by contacting key Democrats and making them aware of our issues?
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Ram_C
11-06 01:40 PM
Guys,
It's almost 3 weeks today since I've opened SRs for my self and my spouse for not receiving FP notice and we haven't got any notice yet.
I want to know if some one who opened a SR for FP and did not receive any FP notice after the wait period expired, what did you do? Is taking an infopass the next step for missing FP notices or just wait and watch?
Thanks and good luck to all.
was your case transferd from NSC -> TSC ???
It's almost 3 weeks today since I've opened SRs for my self and my spouse for not receiving FP notice and we haven't got any notice yet.
I want to know if some one who opened a SR for FP and did not receive any FP notice after the wait period expired, what did you do? Is taking an infopass the next step for missing FP notices or just wait and watch?
Thanks and good luck to all.
was your case transferd from NSC -> TSC ???
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go_guy123
02-02 10:33 AM
Love India, gave me the best time.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
Came to US for higher education. Love USA.
Not yet in the GC mess, but if I want to stay here, I will have to get in. (Hoping that the problem will be solved by the time I apply :D )
Visited India and love the progress. The final act of moving to India is not always GC, money or lifestyle. It boils down to the family one has in India. Having been away from India for long, don't feel comfortable with relatives anymore. Recently lost my dad, who meant everything to me. Can't think of going back to a place where he is not there anymore!
Good luck to all who decide to go back to India and Good luck to all who decide to stay back in the US.
Those who have come from India (specifically India born) really need lots of luck , perhaps even a miracle, to prevent their GC boats from sinking.
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raju123
07-06 03:38 PM
We need some powerful press release for this Gandhigiri
Absolutely awesome. It's on the front page! Well done! Keep sending those flowers.
Absolutely awesome. It's on the front page! Well done! Keep sending those flowers.
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thomachan72
05-23 06:30 AM
I have a bad feeling about IVs goals. Are you only concerned about getting the GC backlogs cleared? or are you going to be asking for H1b related issues to be addressed too? eg:- H1b renewal after the 6th year is an issue any moron could easily understand and pass. That has been there for many years and should continue for a successful H1b program. Please take care of that issue too. I dont see that included in the letter you have prepared to be sent out to all the senators. Please do that urgently. This is a very techinical issue and can easily be campaingned for. Pls dont ignore it.
If the number 3 in the letter has something to do with H1b renewal, pls reword it and make it clear, however, Idont believe its related to h1b renewal atall.
Please include atleast H1b renewal, one good thing about h1 that all of you have/currently are enjoying, to be included as one of your/our major demands. I am not asking for the H1b placement at different sites thing, that might be difficult to campaign for at this point of time, however, renewal needs to be done.
If the number 3 in the letter has something to do with H1b renewal, pls reword it and make it clear, however, Idont believe its related to h1b renewal atall.
Please include atleast H1b renewal, one good thing about h1 that all of you have/currently are enjoying, to be included as one of your/our major demands. I am not asking for the H1b placement at different sites thing, that might be difficult to campaign for at this point of time, however, renewal needs to be done.
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04-23 11:38 AM
My understanding is after 180 days of 485 filing, even if the employer revokes the approved 140, the 485 application does not get affected if you apply AC21 and let USCIS know that you have changed employment and the job duties are similar. Is it true? or is there is any risk if employer revokes 140?
As per the Yates memo, we are covered once 180 days have passed since filing 485.
If the employer revokes 140, then USCIS will issue a RFE, most probably NOID on your 485. AC-21 papers filed or not, its up to the officer who is handling your case. Even if you sent the AC-21 papers, he/she still can issue a NOID.
Then it will up to you to prove that changing jobs was with in rules. A lot of people do it and get GC's. Its a common practice and is now becoming more visible.
So, just be cautious with the job change and make sure your job responsibilties are as close as mentioned on the labor.
I hope it helps.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
As per the Yates memo, we are covered once 180 days have passed since filing 485.
If the employer revokes 140, then USCIS will issue a RFE, most probably NOID on your 485. AC-21 papers filed or not, its up to the officer who is handling your case. Even if you sent the AC-21 papers, he/she still can issue a NOID.
Then it will up to you to prove that changing jobs was with in rules. A lot of people do it and get GC's. Its a common practice and is now becoming more visible.
So, just be cautious with the job change and make sure your job responsibilties are as close as mentioned on the labor.
I hope it helps.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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spicy_guy
02-01 12:59 PM
I just visited last month. I stayed there for 6 weeks...
Agree that economy is booking but....
(1) too much pollution.
(2) No infrastructure to handle cars and two wheeleers.
(3) too much mosquito even in winter/summer. I do not know what will happen in rainy days.
(4) prices for every item have gone up by 3X..Most of the item I am not able to justify the rise. The quality of the product has not gone up.
(5) easy to set up business..get house...get car but tough to drive peacefully...need to pray god every morning so that we come back home with 2 hands and 2 legs and unbroken body parts.
(6) Club culture is booming too...so if you have daughter who is teen then need to check by that angle too.
Just my two cents....
Agree to all of them. but biggest thing to beat them all above in US is Medical insurance. you can live here in this country as long as everything is going well.
Talk about the Job situ, if you are out of job for a month, its a hell..but not in India.
Agree that economy is booking but....
(1) too much pollution.
(2) No infrastructure to handle cars and two wheeleers.
(3) too much mosquito even in winter/summer. I do not know what will happen in rainy days.
(4) prices for every item have gone up by 3X..Most of the item I am not able to justify the rise. The quality of the product has not gone up.
(5) easy to set up business..get house...get car but tough to drive peacefully...need to pray god every morning so that we come back home with 2 hands and 2 legs and unbroken body parts.
(6) Club culture is booming too...so if you have daughter who is teen then need to check by that angle too.
Just my two cents....
Agree to all of them. but biggest thing to beat them all above in US is Medical insurance. you can live here in this country as long as everything is going well.
Talk about the Job situ, if you are out of job for a month, its a hell..but not in India.
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vikki76
09-29 04:48 PM
For variety of reasons, I wish to explore option of consulting instead of permanent corporate job. Can I do consulting in my own name directly or do I need to be associated with some company?
Green card (EB-2, Nov 29,2004 PD) application is in my name. I have filed 485 this July and expecting my EAD any time. I will be invoking AC21 after 6 months.
But need answer to this question
A. Consult on own?
B. Go through a consulting company?
I prefer option A.
Green card (EB-2, Nov 29,2004 PD) application is in my name. I have filed 485 this July and expecting my EAD any time. I will be invoking AC21 after 6 months.
But need answer to this question
A. Consult on own?
B. Go through a consulting company?
I prefer option A.
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walking_dude
10-08 02:48 PM
Please donate $5000 to IV and they'll make it their top-most agenda
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I would say IV should make PD based processing as the top most priority in their agenda. ...
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I would say IV should make PD based processing as the top most priority in their agenda. ...
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shantak
02-03 05:23 PM
I have been waiting for the FP in the hope that they will be issuing it soon, its already Feb and I have not received it yet. Im the only one who has not recieved the notice yet in my friends circle, I have opened an SR last week. Mine is TSC application. Are there any TSC guys yet to receive the FP notices. Overall are there a significant number of people still waiting or is it just a few of us
Thanks
Thanks
needhelp!
02-11 06:58 PM
You can paypal to donations@immigrationvoice.org
Or use online payment from your bank login.
IV,
I know you don't want us to use paypal - but I think that might be delaying lot of contributions.
Here is my case - I have a very hectic work schedule -so by the time I go home I forget to write and send a check. If I could do paypal then would be no problem as I can do from any where - work - from phone - anywhere.
Just a thought.. I have been planning to send $50 or so but kept on forgetting. Don't get me wrong but telling the truth here.
Or use online payment from your bank login.
IV,
I know you don't want us to use paypal - but I think that might be delaying lot of contributions.
Here is my case - I have a very hectic work schedule -so by the time I go home I forget to write and send a check. If I could do paypal then would be no problem as I can do from any where - work - from phone - anywhere.
Just a thought.. I have been planning to send $50 or so but kept on forgetting. Don't get me wrong but telling the truth here.
sledge_hammer
01-30 05:06 PM
Don't confuse between taking legal risk with doing something illegal. You must be an idiot to think they are the same.
Poeple that sold $500K home to those who make $40K were not doing anything illegal. What they were doing was irresponsible. It is the guy that was making $40K, but lied on his application that he was making $80K that is the criminal.
And your assumption is that we are complaining about unethical behavior because we are in the US and we think that everyone in the US is ethical? How stupid are you? Sorry to burst your bubble, but we do not think so. I, and many like me, think we should do the right thing no matter where we are, here, India, or elsewhere.
I can't help but laugh at all these taking moral high ground. They talk like this even after looking at what is happening in so called highly ethical american corporates.
There are rules and people smart enough and daring enough go ahead and push it/bend it as much as possible to achive what interests them most.
As of April 2009, the person who asked the original question and the consultant who asked the question assumed they should be able to land a contract job once October rolls around.
It is a common practice, without going into how it is unfair for the numerous others who have job offers in hand.
Now what would you say to the people who sold houses worth 500,000$ to the people who are making 40K per annum or so? The people who took the risk bear the reward or repercussions.
The person who took a risk by applying for H1 without a client offer, and the consultant would have been rewarded financially if they were able to land a job.
Now that they can't, they have this potential of being illegal stay/out of status or whatever that they have to deal with.
So I suppose, if we can help him with answers to the questions he is seeking and provide any guidance that will help him deal with the results of his decision , as many are doing on thread, that is great. If not, don't have get so preachy/flamey.
Peace out.
PS:Aksham,this is not directed at you.
Poeple that sold $500K home to those who make $40K were not doing anything illegal. What they were doing was irresponsible. It is the guy that was making $40K, but lied on his application that he was making $80K that is the criminal.
And your assumption is that we are complaining about unethical behavior because we are in the US and we think that everyone in the US is ethical? How stupid are you? Sorry to burst your bubble, but we do not think so. I, and many like me, think we should do the right thing no matter where we are, here, India, or elsewhere.
I can't help but laugh at all these taking moral high ground. They talk like this even after looking at what is happening in so called highly ethical american corporates.
There are rules and people smart enough and daring enough go ahead and push it/bend it as much as possible to achive what interests them most.
As of April 2009, the person who asked the original question and the consultant who asked the question assumed they should be able to land a contract job once October rolls around.
It is a common practice, without going into how it is unfair for the numerous others who have job offers in hand.
Now what would you say to the people who sold houses worth 500,000$ to the people who are making 40K per annum or so? The people who took the risk bear the reward or repercussions.
The person who took a risk by applying for H1 without a client offer, and the consultant would have been rewarded financially if they were able to land a job.
Now that they can't, they have this potential of being illegal stay/out of status or whatever that they have to deal with.
So I suppose, if we can help him with answers to the questions he is seeking and provide any guidance that will help him deal with the results of his decision , as many are doing on thread, that is great. If not, don't have get so preachy/flamey.
Peace out.
PS:Aksham,this is not directed at you.
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